you are not going to hear new stuff from the president. >> romney, you are right, obama will try to keep it from being controversial. romney has to engage the president in a different way, not personally, directly. he needs to engage the big issues when we talk about definition he needs to define the fact that, look, this is what i am going to do. if i am not, if i were him i would say i won't run for re-election if i fail you the way he did. he needs to have a vehicle to contrast the reality of what is going on and to put obama having to defend himself. he has the bigger tack. he has a bigger opportunity. >>gregg: doug, does romney need to be more specific on the five-point economic solution to the economy? >> he needs to be more specific so that working people who are hurting, who are suffering, get a sense that he understands not only their pain but has a clear prescription. obama will try to do what pat and john said, be brief, stick to lines that have worked. >> i'm not the greatest speaker but i will get things done and here is what i will get done. >>greg: campaign insiders will b